tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1062377461026943825.post2184918785992115502..comments2023-10-19T22:49:15.517+01:00Comments on Ulster's Doomed!: SDLP – a sad sightHorsemanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16655806346968204169noreply@blogger.comBlogger33125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1062377461026943825.post-38536009255985242202009-12-19T02:36:48.318+00:002009-12-19T02:36:48.318+00:00nah,hartriets as out there now as she ever hase be...nah,hartriets as out there now as she ever hase been.certainly,she may have different views on economics nowadays,in all other aspects she's as loony as any loony left council was back in th 80'swestonenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1062377461026943825.post-21159960885628410122009-11-16T13:58:31.355+00:002009-11-16T13:58:31.355+00:00Not necessarily a bad thing. Pros and cons in PR I...Not necessarily a bad thing. Pros and cons in PR I'd say.Watchernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1062377461026943825.post-79144167660128093762009-11-15T23:20:30.690+00:002009-11-15T23:20:30.690+00:00Milliband and Harman are hardly far left. Harman m...Milliband and Harman are hardly far left. Harman may have been 30 years ago but she sold out whatever left wing principals she ever had years ago. Whoever takes over once they lose the election will be taking over a party in a real mess. If the General Election is close and results in a hung Parliament the Liberal Democrats will look to extract a commitment from Labour on Proportional Representation in exchange for there support.hoboroadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01474379737795624096noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1062377461026943825.post-65386290919013664472009-11-15T23:04:01.014+00:002009-11-15T23:04:01.014+00:00Good point! Maybe the Catholic wing should decamp ...Good point! Maybe the Catholic wing should decamp to The Conservative party instead.<br /><br />Actually, I think there's little chance of The Labour party sliding back to the far left and I think the next election might be closer than you think.Watchernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1062377461026943825.post-66127333540797051962009-11-15T20:59:37.597+00:002009-11-15T20:59:37.597+00:00If New Labour lose the next General Election and G...If New Labour lose the next General Election and Gordon Brown is removed as leader. He will be replaced by someone like David Milliband or Harriet Harman. New Labour will be entering a political wilderness for 15 years or so. Why to hell would the SDLP want to join them?hoboroadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01474379737795624096noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1062377461026943825.post-67778704958366361142009-11-15T19:49:12.885+00:002009-11-15T19:49:12.885+00:00I could seek links with Japan, but it would be tok...I could seek links with Japan, but it would be tokenistic and pointless. <br /><br />The left wing unionist party I speak off will be The UK Labour party - the only realistic option in the long term. I'm talking at least ten years down the road here. The SDLP is perfectly placed to fit in with New Labour, although, as I've said, it will gradually lose it's ultra-Catholic members to The Conservative Party and it's fevered Nationalists to Sinn Fein.Watchernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1062377461026943825.post-74580705146494703702009-11-15T18:08:19.441+00:002009-11-15T18:08:19.441+00:00A Left-Wing Unionist party led by Sylvia Hermon no...A Left-Wing Unionist party led by Sylvia Hermon no doubt but I cannot see it pick up any support outside of North Down. Irish Nationalists seek links with the Irish Republic not with London. Fianna Fail will do nicely for the SDLP they will go together like two peas in a pod.hoboroadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01474379737795624096noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1062377461026943825.post-37620932659134299842009-11-15T17:46:38.173+00:002009-11-15T17:46:38.173+00:00Yes, we all remember leap frogging down the quad. ...Yes, we all remember leap frogging down the quad. Fond memories, but hardly relevant to today's realities. <br /><br />Why join a party in a foreign state, when that party can't influence your own state's policies, let alone influence the lives of those you represent. Sounds like tokenism to me. <br /><br />What exactly would be the difference in sending a FF man to Westminster rather than an SDLP man? I'd say absolutely nothing. OK, FF might give The SDLP some help against SF in Ulster, but I doubt they'd effect SF's vote in the longer term. All the little taigs like SF in the same way that so many young working class people support The BNP in England.<br /><br />No, in the long term there will only be one Nationalist party in Ulster and it's name will be SF. It will achieve absolutely nothing and it's candidates if elected will exercise no influence at national level. <br /><br />There will be a left wing Unionist (small 'u') party in Ulster and it will gain seats at national level. The SDLP can become the core of that party, if it acts soon enough.Watchernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1062377461026943825.post-89081404560495473852009-11-15T16:21:21.721+00:002009-11-15T16:21:21.721+00:00More likely to seek a merger between the SDLP and ...More likely to seek a merger between the SDLP and Fianna Fail. After all his friends from his University days are in Fianna Fail.hoboroadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01474379737795624096noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1062377461026943825.post-77648910423660877962009-11-15T15:50:58.716+00:002009-11-15T15:50:58.716+00:00Doctor McDonell? -
Is he a medic? If so he must ...Doctor McDonell? - <br /><br />Is he a medic? If so he must be used to a very high income, especially since Labour came to power and raised GP earnings (and gave them a lot better working conditions). He's the type of guy I'm talking about who must be getting bored with slumming it with bible bashers and ex-jail birds. No wonder he wants the assembly to collapse, as he's probably looking forward to a position in a future UK Labour government. Even more earnings, power and prestige in London. <br /><br />On another point, Stormount is a joke. The system should be changed so that power sharing only takes place between the largest Unionist and largest Nationalist party, thereby creating an opposition.Watchernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1062377461026943825.post-37715763073969013202009-11-15T15:30:18.580+00:002009-11-15T15:30:18.580+00:00I see Doctor McDonnell of the SDLP says there is a...I see Doctor McDonnell of the SDLP says there is a body of opinion in the party that favours withdrawing from the Power-Sharing Executive. I wonder what his rival Margaret Richie thinks of that considering she is the only SDLP minister in the Executive?hoboroadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01474379737795624096noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1062377461026943825.post-81093581056106709022009-11-15T03:53:33.798+00:002009-11-15T03:53:33.798+00:00Sorry for my first remark, I now realize it is not...Sorry for my first remark, I now realize it is not your fault since you appear to be mentally challenged..<br /><br />Ireland = English<br />Éire = Irish<br /><br />You understand that they both refer to the same thing? the island.<br /><br />You also realize that the country (the Republic) is also officially know as;<br /><br />Ireland = English<br />Éire = Irish<br /><br />Maybe this is hard for you to understand, but you can't always tell what a person is referring too.<br /><br />So if you hear an American say my great grand father is from Ireland he is probably referring to the island. <br /><br />If you hear the news refer to things like "crime is up in Ireland" or "taxes go up in Ireland" they are talking about the country.<br /><br />So today if you were watching the France-Ireland football game on TV5 in Quebec (cause I have never lived there before loser) you would see that they have Ireland listed as Eire. That is because Eire & Ireland can mean the same thing. They can either refer to the island or the country of the same name.<br /><br />If TV5 wanted to be correct they would add "République" to the name but because most people have a brain, they should be able to tell that an country can have a football team, an island cannot. <br /><br />Understand?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1062377461026943825.post-4326921085598773042009-11-15T00:20:14.507+00:002009-11-15T00:20:14.507+00:00Do I suffer from "plastic paddy syndrome"...Do I suffer from "plastic paddy syndrome"?<br /><br />I doubt it very much, since I'm not Irish and have no pretensions to being so. Nor am I british, or even a Christian for that matter. Not that it is any of your business.<br /><br /> The part of "North America" I live in is central Ontario. That is a Canadian province by the way, which makes me neither a "Yank" or a "Bostonian". But undoubtedly you realize that with your profound insight. (Sarcasm off).<br /><br /> "Quit making up S***".<br /><br />Like what exactly? Everything I have posted is either factual or my viewpoint. <br /><br />Eire is used here in the news to refer to the republic of Ireland. Using the term "Ireland" to descibe the Republic and Ulster is misleading and wrong, since "Ireland" is currently composed of two different countries- the Republic and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Would you use "Hispanolia" to describe Haiti and the Dominican Republic? Of course not. You would use the names of there respective countries. <br /><br /> Your post was rude, uncalled for and inapropriate.<br /><br /> One last point. This will undoubtedly come as a shock to you but there are Irish and Irish-descended people in "North America" who DON'T live in Boston.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1062377461026943825.post-40895810140853141622009-11-14T18:23:52.793+00:002009-11-14T18:23:52.793+00:00Is it true that some of these SDLP types are rolli...Is it true that some of these SDLP types are rolling in it? If so I'd like a list of which of them earns the most cash (excluding the cash they get from politics obviously)...Watchernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1062377461026943825.post-82379525016411244932009-11-14T02:42:34.311+00:002009-11-14T02:42:34.311+00:00The SDLP are apparently backing Edwin Poots's ...The SDLP are apparently backing Edwin Poots's attempted gerrymander of the Dunmurry boundary!picadornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1062377461026943825.post-84063512904570972572009-11-13T04:29:31.274+00:002009-11-13T04:29:31.274+00:00Do you suffer from plastic paddy syndrome?
What ...Do you suffer from plastic paddy syndrome? <br /><br />What part of "North America" do they use Éire do refer to the country of Ireland?<br /><br />Cause I have lived half my life in Ireland and the other half in Boston and the kind of statement that you have just made I would expect to come from some thick yank that read some book and goes around acting like he just stepped off the boat cause he knows one word in Irish..........<br /><br />Quit making up shitAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1062377461026943825.post-82689310226808577242009-11-13T03:54:41.542+00:002009-11-13T03:54:41.542+00:00My use of Eire is simply a political term to denot...My use of Eire is simply a political term to denote the 26-county Republic of Ireland. Its' the general term used where I live in North America to refer to the republic. It is true that Eire is Ireland and I suppose vice-versa, but that is basically a geographical term. For that matter all of Ireland is part of the British isles too. But that is also a non-specific, non-political term too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1062377461026943825.post-1298374767886640952009-11-13T02:02:18.412+00:002009-11-13T02:02:18.412+00:00The country of Ireland was known as Éire from the ...The country of Ireland was known as Éire from the time of the 1937 Constitution until the 1948 Republic of Ireland Act which said the name of the state was Ireland (Éire in Irish) while the description of the state is the Republic of Ireland. <br /><br />If you want to read a good article about the name of the country of Ireland and the back & forth between the Irish going out of their way to promote the use of Ireland as the name, while at the same time the British going out of their way to always use the Republic of Ireland.<br /><br />http://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/full/10.1086/508399?cookieSet=1Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1062377461026943825.post-21135449605562924352009-11-13T00:47:56.011+00:002009-11-13T00:47:56.011+00:00Once again, Eire = Ireland, not the republic. I.E...Once again, Eire = Ireland, not the republic. I.E. Eire = the whole island. Why is this so complicated?<br /><br />The unionists already live in Eire.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1062377461026943825.post-12590888161828265252009-11-12T23:51:56.339+00:002009-11-12T23:51:56.339+00:00They hate Ireland and they live in Ireland. Strang...They hate Ireland and they live in Ireland. Strange!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1062377461026943825.post-35450345248832471682009-11-12T23:50:12.989+00:002009-11-12T23:50:12.989+00:00Where's does the million come from? The number...Where's does the million come from? The numbers aren't even near 900,000.<br /><br />The only resistance if the people of the North voted for unification would come from poor working class loyalist areas. At the end of the day terrorism can never defeat democracy.<br /><br />What would you do Watcher in the event that the democratic will of the people wanted unification?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1062377461026943825.post-17294098839016110022009-11-12T23:42:41.126+00:002009-11-12T23:42:41.126+00:00Do all The Irish share your stoicism? I mean reall...Do all The Irish share your stoicism? I mean really.Watchernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1062377461026943825.post-64483562276634823672009-11-12T23:35:31.222+00:002009-11-12T23:35:31.222+00:00To say there are a million Unionists who hate Irel...To say there are a million Unionists who hate Ireland is completely ludicrous. Many Unionists are decent, sensible and democratic people. Its only the bigoted scumbags like Watcher who are the problem. <br /><br />When Irish re-unification happens there will of course be resistance in the north. Nothing that can't be dealt with however.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1062377461026943825.post-54559112375291748212009-11-12T22:46:18.176+00:002009-11-12T22:46:18.176+00:00Reply to Watcher at 22:27:
This is the one thing ...Reply to Watcher at 22:27:<br /><br />This is the one thing he says that is rational. He does make some valid points here, as opposed to his usual juvenile name-calling. I too wonder about the consequences of absorbing a hostile Protestant community. No one can say for sure what would happen because it is unprecedented. I also am not sure about Eire's ability to financially deal with N.I. These are two big reasons why I have long thought a partition of N.I. might be better.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1062377461026943825.post-2722099247404124982009-11-12T22:27:27.168+00:002009-11-12T22:27:27.168+00:00What makes me sleep at night is the fact that The ...What makes me sleep at night is the fact that The Republic's government have zero interest in incorporating a million Unionists who hate Ireland into their state with all that might entail and that even if those Unionists did reluctantly agree to a United Ireland, The Republic could not raise the cash necessary to maintain The Northern Irish (Protestant and Catholic) in the custom to which they are now all accustomed. Perhaps Nationalists should have kept The Ulster Catholics poor after all?<br /><br />The above scenario is merely the logical outworking of these realities coupled with relative peace brought about by The IRA's surrender and SF's co-option into a subordinate UK assembly.Watchernoreply@blogger.com