tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1062377461026943825.post5212864376854753787..comments2023-10-19T22:49:15.517+01:00Comments on Ulster's Doomed!: The Curious Case of the Eleven CouncilsHorsemanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16655806346968204169noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1062377461026943825.post-16050743073363590012009-02-09T13:53:00.000+00:002009-02-09T13:53:00.000+00:00Oak Leaf Boy,You are right, of course, for the tru...Oak Leaf Boy,<BR/><BR/>You are right, of course, for the true south of the county, but I include the Dungiven area as 'south' - maybe I should have said 'mid county Derry'?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1062377461026943825.post-33867364282868552132009-02-09T12:08:00.000+00:002009-02-09T12:08:00.000+00:00HorsemanOn a point of accuracy, under the eleven-c...Horseman<BR/><BR/>On a point of accuracy, under the eleven-council model, practically of south derry (with the exception of Kilrea and its environs)lies within the mainly nationalist Mid Ulster Council area.<BR/><BR/>Oak Leaf Boyoak leaf boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05964490294437098162noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1062377461026943825.post-66527620315474216202009-01-30T17:28:00.000+00:002009-01-30T17:28:00.000+00:00Faha,Thanks for that. I've just googled that artic...Faha,<BR/><BR/>Thanks for that. I've just googled that article and it's uncanny how much it matches my own thinking. I hadn't read it before, as far as I know. I'm almost two years behind Jude!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1062377461026943825.post-25784071419269843182009-01-30T17:00:00.000+00:002009-01-30T17:00:00.000+00:00Jude Collins wrote an excellent article on the new...Jude Collins wrote an excellent article on the new 11 District Councils in the March 21st 2007 issue of the Belfast Telegraph. He praised Arelene Foster of the DUP for the brilliant plan she created for the 11 District Councils. One of his main points was that there would be 165,000 Catholics ( 2001 census ) living within unionist dominated councils under the 7 Coucnil plan and 252,000 Catholics living within unionist dominated Councils under the 11 Council plan.<BR/>Indeed, it is not possible to geographically devise a 11 council plan that could be more favourable to unionists . Arlene Foster probably had some experts on demography and the 2001 census advising her. Jude Collins theorized that Sinn Fein either were very poor negotiators or that they were to recieve major concessions from the DUP ( ? devolution of Police and Justice ). However, since 3 months later Sinn Fein was threatening to collapse the Assmbly over the failure of the DUP to agree to devolution of Police and Justice this could not be the case. Since no other obvious concessions from the unionists have appeared since then it appears to be poor negotiating and lack of demographic knowledge by Sinn Fein. Incidentally, Margaret Ritchie of the SDLP was in Washington at the time and probably was unable to do a thorough analysis or the DUP took advantage of the fact that her constituency of Down was to be removed from a unionist dominated council in the 7 council plan and put into a nationalist majority council under the 11 council plan. Nevertheles, the DUP should be admired for their strategy, a strategy that they inherited from their ancestors who partitioned Ireland to create a Northern Ireland that maximized the number of unionists that would be living in Northern Ireland while not threatening the existence of Northern Ireland by including too many Catholics from the Ulster counties of Donegal, Monaghan and Cavan.Fahahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07951221152773556381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1062377461026943825.post-70626809496633033122009-01-30T13:00:00.000+00:002009-01-30T13:00:00.000+00:00Lisburn Council now say that "Cllr Arthur Carson w...Lisburn Council now say that "Cllr Arthur Carson was elected by co-option on Tuesday 27 January 2009". So that's over then - nothing more to report! (Pity, of course, I like a good election)<BR/><BR/>To Anonymous, sorry if I missed some of your messages - I don't know which ones they were, of course, because almost every comment here is from an 'anonymous'. If you gave yourself a name I would know.<BR/><BR/>On NB, I agree that things seem to have gone flat there, but I wonder if the last Assembly election didn't coincide with the great Electoral Register clean-out? A lot of people may have been lost as names were removed and it was harder to register. Now, however, the rules have been simplified again, so we may see an increase in the electorate in NB, with some interesting results.<BR/><BR/>WB is also strange, and I cannot really think of a good reason. It may be that potential voters are less motivated as the outcome is pretty much certain. I'll continue to watch it, of course, and hope that someone somewhere comes up with the explanation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1062377461026943825.post-50285498202356906202009-01-30T10:39:00.000+00:002009-01-30T10:39:00.000+00:00Horseman,thanks for that - I have left 2 other com...Horseman,<BR/><BR/>thanks for that - I have left 2 other comments on other threads which you have not replied to.<BR/><BR/>Firstly in relation to North Belfast there seems to be virtaully no movement in the Unionist % vote between the last 2 assembly elections - which is strange given the demographics.<BR/><BR/>Secondly, the number of new (net?) voters reigstered in West Belfast is far smaller than any other constituency even though the demographic profile is below average ie younger profile.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1062377461026943825.post-55541958936022134912009-01-30T08:51:00.000+00:002009-01-30T08:51:00.000+00:00If it turns out that Arder Carson was correctly co...If it turns out that Arder Carson was correctly co-opted onto Lisburn City Council then there will be no by-election. The situation on Tuesday seems to have been a little confusing (though perhaps this is the normal practice in Lisburn?). I am awaiting some clarity, and if there is more to say on this, you'll read it here!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1062377461026943825.post-19518681878359293862009-01-30T00:26:00.000+00:002009-01-30T00:26:00.000+00:00Was just looking for that story on Slugger it seem...Was just looking for that story on Slugger it seems to alsi have gone from there - no by-election?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1062377461026943825.post-45023699619577995662009-01-29T19:13:00.000+00:002009-01-29T19:13:00.000+00:00No, I deleted the blog on the Lisburn Council vaca...No, I deleted the blog on the Lisburn Council vacancy following some clarification of the situation. Not remotely embarrassing at all, actually.<BR/><BR/>Keep reading!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1062377461026943825.post-82488396206030008732009-01-29T18:54:00.000+00:002009-01-29T18:54:00.000+00:00I see you have deleted the 'ulters doomed' page. L...I see you have deleted the 'ulters doomed' page. Lol<BR/><BR/>Quite embarrassing if you ask meAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com