Thursday 15 October 2009

Allister-Paisley: it's a personal thing

It is no secret that the TUV is Jim Allister's political vehicle. Of course there are a few other acolytes involved, but without Allister the TUV would not exist.

Yet, less well known is that Allister continues to release press releases in his own name that are not always mirrored by the TUV.

The TUV has a Press Release section on its web site, where almost every word that escapes Allister's lips is faithfully recorded.

But not every word.

Because Allister continues to maintain a second web site – http://www.jimallister.org/ – which used to be his main web presence when he was a mere MEP. Although no longer an MEP (though you would hardly know it on the site, adorned as it is by an image of the European Parliament building in Brussels) Allister still posts his wisdom on this site.

And sometimes the two sites vary. Such as on 10 October when Allister posted the following attack on Ian Paisley Junior:
Paisley must go - Allister
10 October 2009

When Ian Paisley Junior was exposed as having approved the secondment of PSNI officers to help Gaddafi, he spun a web of defence which included the spectacular claim that in fact the officers were intelligence gathering. In his pitiful ‘nudge,nudge/wink,wink’, 'if you knew, what I knew' excuse he said: "In an adult world you don't have to be a genius to work out why it would be useful to have a senior officer, who has got intelligence skills, to look at Libya and to examine that country and to look at the facts that surround that country and to bring that information back to us."

Believing such to be transparent nonsense TUV Leader Jim Allister sought clarification from the Chairman of the Policing Board if there was any truth in Mr Paisley’s wild suggestion. Mr Barry Gilligan in a written response has very explicitly said of seconded officers, “they do not engage in any sort of information gathering on overseas deployments”.

Commenting Mr Allister said: “Ian Paisley Junior was not only flushed out by his own Deputy Leader, Nigel Dodds MP as approving help for Gaddafi, but now he has been caught out making up fairy stories to cover his tracks. His suggestion that the PSNI officers were intelligence gathering in Libya stands exposed as fatuous nonsense. So why did he spin this web of deceit?

"I call on him not just to publicly apologise for his misleading assertion but to resign from the Policing Board as his judgement stands exposed as so deficient as to render him unfit to serve there. If he doesn’t go voluntarily, then his party should remove him. Granted standards of probity on the Policing Board are low, with its membership including a convicted bank robber and convicted bomber, but we are entitled to expect unionist representatives to conduct themselves properly.”

Unusually, this press release was not carried in the TUV site. So perhaps the offensive against Paisley is a rather personal one by Allister?

27 comments:

bangordub said...

I'd say Allister is chomping at the bit to get into some kind of forum where he can employ his courtroom skills against the DUPers, whats your guess Horseman? Assembly, Westminster, local council...........

Horseman said...

bangordub,

An ego as big as his won't fit into a council chamber, so it's got to be Westminster and/or Stormont. I reckon he'd love either, but in Stormont he will probably have a few other TUVers with him, whereas in Westminster he'd be all alone (again).

But he gets a shot at Westminster first, so if he doesn't get that, then we know where he'll aim.

hoboroad said...

Orange Order chief in Scotland says the growth of the SNP is the biggest problem in the Country. The Orange Order might urge members to vote Labour in order to save the Union.

Watcher said...

Many Scottish Unionists/Loyalists are already moving that way, despite major reservations.

hoboroad said...

SNP hope to win at least 20 seats at Westminister in the next General Election. Could be very interesting in a hung parliament. I wonder who will be willing to do a deal with Mr Salmond and who will pay the price of that deal?

Nordie Northsider said...

Off the subject, but relevant to previous posts about the constitutional future of Scotland. A sordid tale of Labour sidling up to those famous egalitarians and forward-thinkers, the Scottish Orange Order: http://news.scotsman.com/politics/Orange-Order-ignites-SNP-over.5744269.jp

A short quote: 'Michael MacMahon, the Labour MSP for Hamilton North and Bellshill, and a Catholic, said that he welcomed the support. He said: "I have a good relationship with the Orange Order. They understand the importance of the Union and they understand the threat."

A new low for Labour, surely?

hoboroad said...

Have you seen what Iain Dale the Tory blogger put up on his website about Mr De Rossa MEP? I predict a libel case after all he did sue Mr Dunphy.

Watcher said...

In the long term it is Conservative Catholics in Northern Ireland who will drift towards any right wing Unionist group (probably The Conservatives). Why wouldn't they? After all a true Catholic will always put his faith and it's teachings first. I'm not talking about pissed up, drugged up, Celtic fans who support the hypocrites of SF here.

paul said...

as some said before watcher, i think the wish is the father of the thought, you really are a little bit clueless, but great value, mo chara

hoboroad said...

I see Mr Dale has deleted his comment about Mr De Rossa maybe his lawyers have been on the phone.

Watcher said...

A TRUE Catholic opposes abortion and homosexuality. Which Northern Ireland parties support this stance?

No pissed up SF types need reply...

Anonymous said...

It's ironic how Unionism is licking up the back side of Catholics. I wonder why that is? Catholics will never vote for Unionist parties. Unionism will always display its true colours. Anti-Catholicism is as part of Unionism as is maintaining the Union. In fact, those Catholics who are very religious are the least likely of Catholics to vote for parties that literally despise them.

Watcher said...

The TRUE Catholic obeys the teachings of The Catholic Church and puts those teachings before any personal feelings.

The TRUE Catholic will never vote for any party that will not spare the lives of the unborn - the most innocent, nor will The TRUE Catholic vote for any party that uses weasel words over abortion.

The TRUE Catholic will not support any political party that says that homosexuals are normal, as this is against the teachings of The Catholic Church.

The TRUE Catholic can not separate out his politics from his faith and will never support a party that goes against the moral teachings of The Catholic Church.

The TRUE Catholic knows to reject the intimidation of the atheist, the agnostic and The Marxist and to ignore the sneers of those who claim to be Catholics but reject the teachings of The Catholic Church. These people are not TRUE Catholics.

The TRUE Catholic knows that to disobey the clear teachings of The Catholic Church is a mortal sin.

hoboroad said...

I see the UCUNF candidate for Upper Bann could be Harry Hamilton the well known Freddie Mercury impersonator. He has made the UUP shortlist of two and now goes forward for the final selection.

paul said...

Anonymous Watcher said...

The TRUE Catholic obeys the teachings of The Catholic Church and puts those teachings before any personal feelings.

The TRUE Catholic will never vote for any party that will not spare the lives of the unborn - the most innocent, nor will The TRUE Catholic vote for any party that uses weasel words over abortion.

The TRUE Catholic will not support any political party that says that homosexuals are normal, as this is against the teachings of The Catholic Church.

The TRUE Catholic can not separate out his politics from his faith and will never support a party that goes against the moral teachings of The Catholic Church.

The TRUE Catholic knows to reject the intimidation of the atheist, the agnostic and The Marxist and to ignore the sneers of those who claim to be Catholics but reject the teachings of The Catholic Church. These people are not TRUE Catholics.

The TRUE Catholic knows that to disobey the clear teachings of The Catholic Church is a mortal sin. keep getting the glue in till ya me old boy, tripping on sunshine.. we're not bothered about Catholicism, we're nationalists man simple as, watcher your comments are quite varied, from the half decent to the completely ridiculous, are you sure your not the one who's a bit pissed.

paul said...

lay off the glue son

Anonymous said...

The TRUE Irish Catholic does not equate to the CULTURAL Irish Catholic, unfortunately for unionism and your good self, Andy.

Most Catholics, at this stage, are much more likely to be cultural to some degree than true and I, of course, am speaking from experience, being a Catholic living amongst Catholics in Ireland.

Unlike yourself, Andy, who lives in a foreign land, spends his time looking over the fence and who speaks for nobody but himself.

You prognosticate about and criticize Ireland and the Irish without justification via your rear sphincter. What will be will be, the future is green, white and orange where the new unified Ireland will cherish all her children equally.

WE are not perfect and do not claim to be. Look in before you look out and work to resolve the ills in your own country because, like everywhere else, there are many.

In short, mind your own business and go away!


MPG .....

Watcher said...

paul said:

"keep getting the glue in till ya me old boy, tripping on sunshine.. we're not bothered about Catholicism, we're nationalists man simple as, watcher your comments are quite varied, from the half decent to the completely ridiculous, are you sure your not the one who's a bit pissed."

Are you saying that Irish Nationalism and Catholicism aren't connected in any way? If so, this blog is one big pile of shit! It's entire thesis is based upon a growing Catholic proportion of Northern Ireland's population delivering a united Ireland! I suggest you pass on that message to Horseshit...

hoboroad said...

Search Petronella Wyatt on Wikipedia.

Anonymous said...

Now now, Andy, complements will get you nowhere!

Sorry, hoboroad, your last went over my head.


MPG .....

bangordub said...

Andy,
I'm a Catholic, my Wife's a Presbyterian, Not one of your comments is valid to either of us.
In the vernacular, wise up

hoboroad said...

Watcher says Catholics should vote for UCUNF because they are against abortion. Well Petronella Wyatt had an abortion after having an affair with Boris Johnston a leading English Tory.

Anonymous said...

I see!

Andys logic.

MPG .....

Watcher said...

MPG -

'Andy' must be pissing himself at you.

Watcher said...

MPG said:

"The TRUE Irish Catholic does not equate to the CULTURAL Irish Catholic, unfortunately for unionism and your good self, Andy.

Most Catholics, at this stage, are much more likely to be cultural to some degree than true and I, of course, am speaking from experience, being a Catholic living amongst Catholics in Ireland."

That's why 60% of Ireland's Catholics still regularly attend mass? Who the fuck do you think you're fooling mate? You and a handful of bloggers might have left 'holy mother church', but at least 60% of The Irish PEOPLE haven't.

"Unlike yourself, Andy, who lives in a foreign land, spends his time looking over the fence and who speaks for nobody but himself."

Is that right retard? LOL. Let's put it this way, whether I live in Ulster, Scotland, England, or Wales, if I'm commenting on Northern Ireland, I AM talking about my own country. As opposed to anyone commenting on this blog who lives 'south of da border'. Pissed up paddy dreams don't count - the entire world accepts The UK's international borders.

"In short, mind your own business and go away!"

You didn't say which part of the island of Ireland you live in mate? Do you think anyone in The ROI should comment on any part of that foreign country known as The UK?

Watcher said...

bangordub said:

"Andy,
I'm a Catholic, my Wife's a Presbyterian, Not one of your comments is valid to either of us.
In the vernacular, wise up"

WHICH comments don't apply to you and your Calvinist squeeze?

As a matter of interest BANGORDUB - you're name seems to suggest you moved from Dublin to the most Protestant area of Ulster (which is itself in The UK, ruled by The UK Government). Am I reading this right?

Anonymous said...

Angry little foreign man.

MPG .....